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i was reminded in 2004 when john kerry was challenging george w. bush and we saw a similar debate performance where the challenger came out swinging, did very, very well. the incumbent president was a little bit on his heels mainly because sometime you're not used to being challenged by somebody in that type of setting. so we move to the next debate. it seems like mitt romney did very well on style, although substance might have been a different matter. >> speaking of substance, a lot of people thought this debate was more informative, but did these issues and ideas connect to the voters? >> i think so. you look at this abroad, there were so many statistics that were at issue. i did think it was a very substantive debate, but going on the substantive part, i think the next 24 hours or so, the obama campaign has the opportunity to seize on some of the facts that mitt romney was citing. one of the things he talked about, he said my tax plan isn't going to benefit wealthy high income americans, but every tax analysis out there shows that the wealthies
i was reminded in 2004 when john kerry was challenging george w. bush and we saw a similar debate performance where the challenger came out swinging, did very, very well. the incumbent president was a little bit on his heels mainly because sometime you're not used to being challenged by somebody in that type of setting. so we move to the next debate. it seems like mitt romney did very well on style, although substance might have been a different matter. >> speaking of substance, a lot of...
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w. >>> and are they back together? new signs of chris brown and rihanna dating again, despite their violent history, and it has some people wondering what she's thinking. today's saturday, october 6th, 2012. >> from nbc news, this is "today" with lester holt and jenna wolf, live from studio 1a in rockefeller plaza. >>> good morning, everyone. welcome to "today" on a saturday morning. >> it's good to have you back from afghanistan. safe and sound. >> good to be back. >> and you're back into the thick of politics here in this country as well. >> it feels like this presidential race has been going on for so long now, but one month from today, voters nationwide will head to the polls and that's it. >> they say it's been -- after a rough debate, a little good news for president obama. unemployment fell to its lowest level since he took office. >>> we're going to look at what's driving the higher prices. >> a story of a miraculous recovery. a 23-year-old woman's brush with death when her skull
w. >>> and are they back together? new signs of chris brown and rihanna dating again, despite their violent history, and it has some people wondering what she's thinking. today's saturday, october 6th, 2012. >> from nbc news, this is "today" with lester holt and jenna wolf, live from studio 1a in rockefeller plaza. >>> good morning, everyone. welcome to "today" on a saturday morning. >> it's good to have you back from afghanistan. safe and...
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w. i think it really depends on the debate and what happens in the debate will depend on how president obama performs against him and how he comes after him. i think the president's very lucky to have the unemployment numbers come out next week, after that first debate, rather than this week, before the debate, because that would give him an opening. we've seen these debates take unusual turns in the past. president ford liberated poland when he was debating, you'll remember, and jimmy carter, he talked about nuclear policy with amy and ronald reagan looked and said there you go again, and it changed it for ronald reagan. >> let's talk about that fight night. a lot of commentators think of because where romney is it's a make-or-break moment for him. i love to hear all the commentators fall over themselves to compliment each other for once on the campaign trail. you had mitt romney saying the president obviously is a very eloquent gifted speaker. david axelrod said i think the invasion of
w. i think it really depends on the debate and what happens in the debate will depend on how president obama performs against him and how he comes after him. i think the president's very lucky to have the unemployment numbers come out next week, after that first debate, rather than this week, before the debate, because that would give him an opening. we've seen these debates take unusual turns in the past. president ford liberated poland when he was debating, you'll remember, and jimmy carter,...
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most previous individual given, george soros $24 million in 2004 against george w. bush. >> he wasn't done yet. that is what i took away from your story. >> no, absolutely. >> if it will make a difference he will get. >> we've been able to study the obama campaign, the operation for, you know, five, five 1/2 years sort of in campaign mode and governing mode. how do they react to moment like this? they obviously don't panic but they do what? how do they take a bad thing and neutralize it and ultimately a good thing. how? >> the president has an expression. talks about our time in the barrel. and he's been the underdog enough times. he has gone through enough times. that, they're smart and they know our time in the barrel is going to come and this now is their time. they're in the barrel and they're going to spend a couple of days trying to convince people that he has game. and, two weeks from now, the debate at hofstra, in new york, he will get to show but, i thought that was a very smart point you made about the sort of soft interviews. i bet we'll see him out doing
most previous individual given, george soros $24 million in 2004 against george w. bush. >> he wasn't done yet. that is what i took away from your story. >> no, absolutely. >> if it will make a difference he will get. >> we've been able to study the obama campaign, the operation for, you know, five, five 1/2 years sort of in campaign mode and governing mode. how do they react to moment like this? they obviously don't panic but they do what? how do they take a bad thing...
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george w. bush, in 2000, beat al gore among white voters 55- 43. the margin was the same. how did gore and bush is essentially tied? you might not know this, but bush won the election. [laughter] in the electoral college, a cool thing that is in the constitution. eight years later, what was essentially a popular vote tie becomes 87-point below. fred talks about how hard it is for a democrat to win a seven- point margin. republicans cannot. it is impossible. if mitt romney wins the popular vote, it will be by .02, if at all. the party has to figure out how to do much better with minority voters. african-americans, it will be hard for us to get their vote for a while because the president is black. republicans have to do significantly better than we are doing right now. in the future, we have to do significantly better with latino voters. >> the republican political model is not sustainable, the current one. it has to change. one technical question -- when i look at various polls, and a lot of times the top numbers look very reasonable and consistent, and when you start look
george w. bush, in 2000, beat al gore among white voters 55- 43. the margin was the same. how did gore and bush is essentially tied? you might not know this, but bush won the election. [laughter] in the electoral college, a cool thing that is in the constitution. eight years later, what was essentially a popular vote tie becomes 87-point below. fred talks about how hard it is for a democrat to win a seven- point margin. republicans cannot. it is impossible. if mitt romney wins the popular vote,...